Saturday, 2 April 2022

Dr. J. Harvey 2006 Interview

 

NIPIGON HISTORICAL MUSEUM                      May 31, 2006

Interview

 

Dr.  Harvey

Now Resides in Thunder Bay

 


We arrived in Nipigon in 1961 actually I was working at the Port Arthur clinic at the time and the public health nurse came into the office and wondered if I knew someone who was interested in coming to Nipigon because the local doctor Dr.  Jefferey had just died.  He wasn=t that old only in his forties he was an alcoholic I remember some people telling me that they=d go into his office and he=d asked them if they=d like a drink.  If you said no he would say Awell I do@ and he=d pull the drawer open and pour himself a drink.  Sibby Natchuk was his office nurse for a long time and her job first thing in the morning was to try and get him sobered up.  Anyway, he was a good doctor and a lot of the patients told me that they=d rather have Dr.  Jefferey drunk than any other doctor sober.  So I went down to Nipigon and looked over the books because Mrs.  Jefferey was selling the practice and figured out what I=d make and I came back to the Port Arthur clinic and told them that if they=d pay me what I could make in Nipigon then I=d stay and they said Ago to Nipigon@.  So I can remember the day I arrived it was November and it had just snowed and was sort of miserable and wet and slushy and so on.  Outside there was apartment building on the corner of Bell and First street which was where the practice office was.  Originally it had been a home and then it became the RCMP office and then I=d bought it from Dr.  Jefferey who had used it as an office and then I had bought it and did a few renovations.  Now I think John Fould=s owns it as an apartment building.  So that was where I practiced and then there was Dr.  Somerleigh and Dr.  Sittlinger and Dr.  Somerleigh had just a year before I had gotten there a woman who was angry at him because her baby had died which had absolutely nothing to do with him but she threw acid in his face.  You have to give the guy credit because in spite of being so badly disfigured he came back and practiced in Nipigon it was something for the community too because he had a lot of patients.  Then there was Dr.  Sittlinger over in Red Rock and Dr.  Sittlinger comes out in the summer time to Stewart Lake and so basically there was the three of us at that time.  At that time too it was the old Red Cross Hospital, it was a beautiful stone front building which was where the hospital was and that was the original building which would have made a wonderful place for the Nipigon Museum but of course, it got torn down.  Then they added on to the hospital and the Red Cross Hall was where Harbinson=s live and the Red Cross in those days was kind of like a club which was a social club that everybody kind of belonged to help in the community. 



So there are lots of interesting stories from those days because there was no ambulance in those days so I had a station wagon and so if they needed an ambulance I=d use my station wagon.  I can remember one time actually this person still lives in Nipigon but his name shall go unmentioned, but he was a really bad alcoholic and he knew that he shouldn=t drink and drive so he was driving down towards Terrace Bay and when he came to a side road he crossed over the railroad tracks down to the lake and have a drink and he became progressively more drunk as he went along until he was totally smashed.  So he was driving back up and it was getting dark by this time and he came to this side road and he turned left and the highway was just really rough and then all of a sudden this idiot came along right down the middle of the highway with only one light and what had happened was he turned on to the CPR tracks instead of the highway!  This was the Canadian in those days you know the passenger train that was coming down so I guess he=d pulled over as much as he could but he still scraped the Canadian right from one end to another he did hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of damage to the whole train which was made out of that really shiny aluminum.  Anyways, we got the call that somebody had been in a car accident with a CPR train and he was stuck his foot and he was passed out or unconscious or drunk or whatever but his foot was stuck under the brake pedal so we had to get a crow bar and pry the pedal up.  It was actually near Gravel River where it happened so we unfortunately I couldn=t get the back door of my station wagon open to get the stretcher out but I could get it out through the passenger door but I couldn=t get a person on it.  So we decided the only thing to do was to carry this guy and he was about 6'3" and weighed about 250 pounds and he was totally unconscious so two OPP officers carried this guy about maybe a quarter of a mile up to the highway.  Just as we got to Harry Timcoe=s place in Gravel River, this guy sat up on the stretcher and started running down the highway.  Well you could see two very disgruntled policemen who had just carried this guy all that way and then all of a sudden he get=s up and starts running down the highway and I must admit they weren=t very careful when they put him in the police cruiser.  The only injuries he had was a dislocated shoulder and a sprained ankle but other than that the next morning he couldn=t remember a thing that had happened!.  The moral of that story is that he is now an active member of AA and he=s sober now and a good member of the community. 

I remember another time when I was using the car as an ambulance I got a call down to the Plaza Theater because this little old lady was sick she had passed out.  So I came down with my station wagon to pick her up and I put her in the back and I had just only had the station wagon for two weeks and the lady threw up blood all over the back seat because she had a bleeding ulcer.  So I took her to the hospital and spent the next three quarters of an hour hosing out the back of my car.



There was a funeral director in Nipigon in those days by the name of Frank Lawrence which was before the Elliot=s took over which was in the same building.  Frank and I had gotten to know each other and we were good friends and Frank was quite a character. One time he had this old Hearst which was about a twenty year old Cadillac and one day he called me and told me he had to go away to this convention in Toronto and his wife Nancy was there.  If somebody died when he was away then what they would do is take the body up to Thunder Bay and the funeral director there would look after it.  But he said that the only thing was that the guy next door to his place who ran the grocery store was one of his helpers and anyway the other guy who was his helper was off sick so he wanted me to give him a hand if somebody died which was not too likely that somebody died in Nipigon every week.  So I said Ano problem@ and he left and in the middle of the night I got a call and what had happened was there was a woman in our town who delivered parcels for the post office she had a little wagon that she pulled around she was a single woman and that=s how she made a living for herself was to deliver the parcels for the Post Office.  Anyway, her mother and sister had come up from the States to visit her and unfortunately her mother had passed away during the night so I got this call at 4 o=clock at night saying her mother wasn=t breathing and they figured she passed away.  So I went to the house and the mother was dead so I pronounced her dead and I was the coroner for Nipigon so I said well in order to take her back to the States they needed to have a special certificate in order to transfer her across the border.  So I told them that I was the coroner and I could fill the certificate out for them and then I said you=ll probably want to use the local funeral home and I said Aoh that=s right Frank=s away@!  So they said Aoh, that=d be nice if your local funeral home could make the arrangements@ so I went down and what Frank hadn=t told me before he left was that the muffler had fallen off his funeral coach so I started this thing up with the guy next door in the middle of the night just roaring and this woman lived on eighth street up the hill and her house was up above the road so you had to go up this driveway.  So we turned the funeral coach around and I was trying to back it up this driveway and it was making all this noise and it kept stalling and I was trying to get it up the driveway.  So anyways, I step out of the funeral coach and well you should have seen the look on the relatives faces!  The doctor, the coroner, and now the funeral director!! They must have figured I had the town completely tied up and I=m sure they must have had some storied about Nipigon when they got back home where this guy does everything!  When Frank came back I said AFrank that=s the last time I=m ever going to help you in your funeral business!@. 


One time my wife Maureen and I were having supper at Frank=s place and we got a call from the Hospital emergency room because there had been a very serious accident.  The one person was dead on arrival and there was a couple of other injured people so I said AFrank I=m going to have to go up to the hospital because there=s been a serious accident and there=s somebody dead@.  So I get up to the emergency room and the other two people hadn=t been badly hurt at all but there was the person who had passed away and the body was in the emergency room so I said Awell there=s a local funeral director here in town if you=d like I could give him a call and he could come and help with the arrangements@.  They said Ayeah, that would be nice if you could do that for us@ so I opened the door out of the emergency room and there was Frank standing there he decided that he knew he was going to get called anyways so he followed me up to the hospital!  I said AFrank, get back in your funeral coach and drive around the block a few times! We don=t want them to know that you=re following me around that doesn=t say too much for my practice when the funeral director is three feet behind me!!!. 

One time I was walking along the Cliffside Cemetery in Nipigon and I could see this head bouncing up and down in a grave!, so I stopped and here it was Frank and you could just see his head come up and then back down and I said AFrank what in the world are you doing?@ and all his equipment had been old that he used and you know they have the straps that lower the casket down into grave, well one of the straps had broken and the casket had fallen into the bottom of the grave and it twisted and the top snap came loose and the top of the casket popped open.  So he was trying to get this thing jumping on the lid to try and get it to stick and I guess he finally had gotten Mr.  Schwartz who had dug the holes and so on and he was just shaking his head at Frank. 



I remember one time I got this call up to MacDiarmid which is now Rock Bay as a coroner and I was told there was a woman there who had gotten run over by a train.  So I drove up and it was a sort of a dull day and there was all the Hardy=s were up on one side and all of the McGuire=s were on the other side of this kind of a grassy cut just outside of MacDiarmid and sure enough there was this poor soul in two pieces.  And so there was all the relatives right there and I just covered her up and they took her away and then I phoned the pathologist at the Port Arthur General who would do her autopsy and had said Ayou know this woman=s been obviously run over by a train and could you do the post modem@ he said Afine@.  About three hours later I get a call back from him and he said Ayes, she had been run over by a train but you also forgot to mention the 42 stab wounds she had in her body@.  Well I didn=t want to examine her right there and apparently she had been stabbed on the way home from a party late that night or early in the morning and then the guy threw her on the tracks thinking that he would cover up his crime by doing that.  So they took the guy into the police station and they took his clothes for forensic evidence you know for blood stains and so on and then he had signed a confession saying that he had stabbed her and that on the way home he had met her and they had an altercation and then he got angry and stabbed her and threw his knife off into the doc in MacDiarmid.  He got off because they never could find the knife it was so dark and murky the water that we couldn=t find it so the only evidence they had was his confession and his lawyer was able to show that he had been intimidated into making a confession because they had stripped him of all his close and that=s what forced him to give a confession so he got off.  It was about six weeks later when the guy who committed the murder was stabbed to death outside of a bar here in Thunder Bay. 





We did a lot of interesting things Nipigon was a very progressive hospital at that time one of the things that Nipigon instituted was rooming in like a lot of this stuff we just take for granted now like a mother being able to have a baby in her room.  In those days doing obstetrics they didn=t do that in Thunder Bay then and we got a leading authority in internal and baby care from Montreal come up and gave some talks at the Nipigon Hospital and the Hospital eventually approved it and it was quite the battle actually because people were worried about things like infection and so on.  It seems hard to believe that they would take the baby after and put it in the nursery and the mother wouldn=t even hardly get to hold the baby.  So rooming in was instituted quite early and then the next step was having fathers in the delivery room and that was again a really big fight with the board until a couple of board members wives got pregnant and were having babies and they wanted to be in the delivery room!  Gladys (Gladdy) Gordon was pretty progressive too and she could have just dug in and said no but she agreed with a lot of things.  The other thing we did was I don=t know if you=ve ever heard of the Nipigon Coronary Care Research Project but in 1972 we got a grant from the PSI Foundation which was before OHIP and the doctor=s had their own insurance plan for patients.  Companies like the Red Rock Mill could purchase it and it was a kind of like health insurance and mostly it was through employers that they had it.  So anyway, when OHIP came in they had all this money in the kiddie like millions and millions of dollars and you couldn=t give it back to the people in a sense.  So they used it for research so I applied for a research grant and the project was to see whether it was possible to do coronary care in a small community because in those days coronary care was started in 1970 and this was only like two or three years later.  The thing was that because I was the coroner I had access to all the statistics on people who had died of heart attacks such as their death rates and so on.  So we tied it in with Mc Masters University because we were tied in with them training medical students.  The other thing was that at that time the CPR was a new thing and in fact a lot of the ambulance drivers in Ontario weren=t allowed to do CPR because of the risk of being sued.  So what we decided with this project was that we were going to train everybody in Nipigon and Red Rock how to do CPR so if somebody dropped from a heart attack there would be somebody right there to do CPR on them.  We trained about a thousand people in the community which included all the plywood mill employees and all the Red Rock mill employees and all the High School students.  We had a resuscitation manakin that they could practice on and at the Fall Fishing festival we set up a booth where people could come in and learn how to do CPR.  So we trained and trained and that was one aspect of it and the other aspect of it was in the hospital where we actually had a room designated for Coronary Care which at that time was at the new hospital that was being built but of course there=s only one nurse on at night so how could she keep an eye on the patients so we got closed circuit television which again was something really new.  So we had this project that we were going to do with closed circuit television and we also had a self learning whole educational multi-media module for the nurses so that at night when they had nothing to do they could train themselves all about how to diagnose cardiac eurhythmia=s and what drugs to give and all that kind of stuff.  Then we would with the resusciany manakin if the nurses weren=t busy I would walk in and call a code 99 which in those days was what we called it and the nurses would have to go through all the procedures and they just hated it when I walked in.  The interesting thing was that we had to get approval from the board and the hospital board said Awe can=t do this in Nipigon because it=s too small and there are too many risks, this is very sophisticated equipment@ I=m not quite sure what all of their problems were with it.  So they just said no and in today=s dollars it would be equivalent to a million dollars worth of research and the plan was to hire a couple medical students from Mc Masters University to come up and do all the data collection and statistics and so on.  So the board said no and about a month later it was time for the annual meeting and George Sittlinger over in Red Rock told one of his patients that Ait=s terrible you know the board won=t let Harvey go on with this research project@ so this woman got on the phone and you could buy a membership in the Thunder Bay District Hospital organization for a buck.  So about a hundred and fifty people all took out their dollar membership and attended the annual meeting which usually at that meeting you=d be lucky to have a dozen people attending so these people all showed up and they wanted to know why the board turned down this research project and so on and what all their excuses were.  The board explained that it was very difficult equipment to use and so Lillian Wolters was a kindergarten teacher at that time and she said Awe have a video camera in our kindergarten class and the kids don=t seem to have any trouble using it!@. It was really bad but another woman got up with tears in her eyes and said Amy husband Joe just passed away a few months ago and if there=d been this program in the hospital he=d probably still be with us@.  So the board resigned, the whole board quit and then there was no hospital board and they had to call the Ontario Hospital Association because this Dr.  Harvey character was causing all this conflict and trouble and so on!  Then they kind of poured oil on the waters and everybody decided to get along again and so we put that program into effect and I think even until this day they have Cardiac Care in Nipigon.  It=s funny though we=d forgotten a part of the project to put any money in for installing the cable for the closed circuit television so this medical student that was working along side me one night we drilled a hole in the floor by the nurses station and there was like a crawl space under the old hospital.  So there we were in the middle of the night with flashlights pulling this cable underneath the hospital and then we drilled a hole in the floor in a room that was going to be the intensive care unit!



Mr. Chaboyer was on the ambulance and he really was the back bone of that training program and it=s funny how in a situation like that there=s somebody in the community who will catch the vision and if it wasn=t for people like him.  He was a very quite un assuming sort of person but he was very faithful and he worked very hard at it.  We did surgery in those days and actually all of us did surgeries in particular Dr.  Sittlinger and myself we did appendectomies and hernia=s and tubal ligations and I notice in the papers I kept from the hospital here there used to be consent forms for sterilization in those days and you had to sign that you realized they were irreversible and in those days the wife had to sign it too or if the wife was the one getting it done the husband had to sign for her.  I remember one woman who was Catholic and she was said she was so tired of going to the confessional every month and having to confess she was taking birth control pills so the husband agreed to have a vasectomy so then he just had to confess it once and it was over!  So I did the vasectomy on him but unfortunately about a year later she came to me pregnant and so I said AI=m not going to take the blame for this your husband=s vasectomy worked you=ll have to face the music yourself!@.  She wanted me to say that it didn=t work!.  You see a lot of life and a lot of sadness in the medical field especially as a coroner I think the saddest things were the suicides for me.  One young couple had been in their early 30's and they didn=t have any children and the husband was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis and he just didn=t want to burden his wife with it so he went and rented a room in Terrace Bay and killed himself by overdosing on pills.  His wife was so heartbroken over what had happened.  Another man who had been sort of depressed off and on and he went to the Nipigon Hospital and an old friend of his had been there and he had just messed the bed and this guy stood there and looked at his friend and said to the attending nurse Aif that=s the way life ends then I=m going to do something about it!@.  So he got in his car and his daughter was called by the nurse so she got in her car and tried to follow him because at that time they lived in Thunder Bay.  Just as she pulled in the driveway she heard the gun go off and he had shot himself.  She said Ait was so awful my father=s brains were all over the walls and ceiling@ and she said AI just couldn=t let strangers clean the room I had to clean it up myself@.  So you can imagine the trauma involved what most people don=t realize with suicide is that it=s such a terrible thing to do to your relatives. Talking about brains, my wife and I had been coming back from Thunder Bay late at night because we had been up to the community auditorium and we were driving home at around 11:30 at night just by Hurkett and the police lights were going and here was this car that had been in a head on collision.  So we stopped since I was the coroner and the guy who had been driving the car was going so fast that when they hit the other vehicle which was a truck or whatever and the people in that vehicle weren=t injured.  Anyway, they were going so fast that when his head had hit the steering wheel it sheered the top of his head off and his brains were actually sitting on the top of the dashboard!.  If you can imagine how you would do that without you know just how they were sitting there. So I told the police that I think we can be pretty certain that this person is dead.  He had a chum with him and he was dead too. 

One time I got called up Black Sturgeon and an older man had been cutting wood and had a heart attack and died.  So there was this stack of wood that he had piled up it was all nicely cut and I think it was on crown land so I went up and pronounced him dead and made sure it wasn=t a murder being covered up or anything.  So I asked the police officer I said Awho does this wood belong to?@.  The police officer said AI don=t know@ because we had a wood fireplace at home, so the old station wagon I had I ended up loading it right up with all of the nicely cut wood and it was just about dragging on the road!.  When the winter time came I told the kids Alets burn some dead wood!@.  The crazy things that you do!


I remember this particular station wagon we had was a 1962 pontiac and it had what you called positraction and it was just a new thing then and in those days you could have a studded tires.  I got a call about a plane crash on Black Bay actually what had happened the guy it was late at night and they got a knock on the door at Nuttal=s they had a cabin there and it was the guy from the crash and he had crawled about 2 miles across the lake in the snow.  It wasn=t terribly cold it was maybe minus 10 degrees outside then and he said Amy buddy is still trapped in the plane and I couldn=t get him out!@.  So we went out and sure enough we couldn=t get the guy out because the dash board was stuck and they were afraid to move him and so on but he was conscious.  He called me and so like an idiot I thought that with this new positraction I could drive out on Black Bay and actually a guy went ahead of me on a snow machine which was good because there was spots that were slushy and there were some holes in the ice.  So I followed him out and we had crowbars and stuff and the guy was saying Ano don=t pry on anything@ because there was like one hundred thousand dollars worth of navigational equipment and he didn=t want it broken and here we were hacking away at it with axes.  He had two broken ankles but other than that he was okay, what had happened was that they were flying around in this snow storm and there was a whiteout and he couldn=t even tell which way was up so they ended up crashing.  So they thought it was pretty good that the ambulance came right out onto the lake.


I remember another time it had been hunting season and there were some pretty tragic events of hunting accidents in Nipigon but this one had happened during the first day of hunting season and there was a moose walking up the road.  So this guy had pulled his truck over and was waiting for the moose to walk off the road before he shot it actually it was an American Tourist had pulled off the road and this guy from Nipigon pulled off to the side because he spotted the moose in the middle of the road.  So the American hunter was standing on the road watching the moose and this guy from Nipigon jumps out of his truck and fires and shoots the American tourist right through the chest!.  So they bring him into the Nipigon hospital and he=s bleeding like crazy and we started to give him a blood transfusion and packed the wound and so on and shipped him off to Thunder Bay.  The guy was conscious while I was working on him and he was from Florida anyway, we got up to Nipigon with him and he went unconscious and he was unconscious for about two days due to a lack of blood and the shock and everything.  Dr.  John Gooding was the surgeon up in Thunder Bay and he spent six hours operating on this guy putting him together.  The guy woke up and recovered and all he could remember was this doctor from Nipigon that had saved his life.  So every year for about ten years I got this box of oranges from Florida you know, and John Gooding got diddly squat! So I used to tell John Aoh, I got my box of oranges for saving that guys life!@ and he would say Aoh, yeah right@. 



So we did surgery in Nipigon we did hernia=s and those sorts of things and then we had surgeons come down from Thunder Bay.  A surgeon by the name of Randy McComb would come down with an anaesthetist and they would do the more major surgeries like gull bladders and then we would do the post operative care in Nipigon.  So that was kind of nice because the patients could have the surgery done right in Nipigon without having to leave town.  We had quite an active operating room and then Dr.  McComb moved away and then as time went on it was felt that you had to be a properly trained surgeon.  We were what you called in those days Physicians/Surgeons.  In my training I had done surgery in the Detroit receiving hospital which is sort of like ER and it was the second busiest emergency room in the United States.  So I got a lot of experience from there but as time went on of course you felt it wasn=t safe to do surgery in Nipigon which was probably true to some extent.  With the highway improvements and the air ambulance and so on the whole dynamic changed but those were sort of the old glory days of Nipigon.  There were people like Sylvia Naetchuk and Gladdy Gordon and Verla Smart who was the RNA, Phyllis Spirka was the head nurse after Sibbey Naetchuk left.  When I look back now they were pretty good sports to put up with me!  Dr.  Sittlinger I remember just to be funny would take a few wiffs of the end of the anaesthetic agent and get high! He would have to sit down and lean up against the wall because he was so dizzy!  There was an x-ray machine there when I arrived and there was a woman who ran it and she was an RNA and she=d learned how to run the x-ray machine she used to live across from the hospital and I believe she was of Finnish descent and she=d come over after the second world war.  Then as time went on we got a more sophisticated machine and in those days we did what we call forescopic procedures like we would take barium enemas which was for examining the intestinal track by putting the barium up from below or they could swallow it and we could do x-ray=s of the stomach.  We did a lot of things in the x-ray department and then again we felt that to really do a good job we had a radiologist come down once a month and we=d line up everybody that needed an examination of their stomach or intestines and he=d spend the whole day doing all the x-ray=s.  Again that meant that people didn=t have to travel and they could have it done right there. 





I became interested in acupuncture back in the 70's when a bunch of doctor=s from Canada went over to China and saw it and were totally amazed.  So I had taken a course in acupuncture and I have lots of stories about that.  In my office I because with acupuncture you had to let the person sit there with the electro stimulating machine hooked up to the needles for about twenty minutes and I didn=t want to tie up an office up in my regular office so I fixed up a room in the basement.  Actually I built the entrance way to my office with the stairs going up to where my office was and stairs going down to the basement so that some time in the future I could have an apartment there.  So I fixed up the one room just as you were going to the bottom of the stairs there was a room there and that was where I did the acupuncture and there was a lady who had been suffering from migraine headaches and with that you would put the needles in the forehead and a couple of other places.  Anyways, there were these wires hooked up to the needles I placed on her forehead so she was downstairs having her acupuncture treatment when a patient that had never been to the office before had just moved into town and came to the office and she wasn=t quite sure where to go and so unfortunately I forgot to lock the door to the basement so she walked downstairs and opened the door and saw the patient sitting there with these needles coming out of her head hooked up to this machine!  So the woman comes upstairs and says to the receptionist Ais this a doctor=s office?@ and the woman was pale white.  Another time there was an old Finnish guy who lived across from the office and he originally was in the hospital hooked up to an ECG machine and when I treated him with acupuncture the next day I saw him he said Aoh, that treatment you gave me really helped! Could I have another one today?@.  So I tried to explain to him that it was just diagnosis you know but he wouldn=t have it so I thought well okay we=ll do the acupuncture on him since it makes him feel so good.  So he would come over about once a week for his acupuncture treatment downstairs in the basement room and one day I was sitting in my office upstairs with a patient sitting across from me and she said Ado I hear something?@.  And I listened and you could hear this sound coming up from the cold air register Ahelp!@ and I thought Aoh, shoot!@ because I had forgot my patient who had gone downstairs for his acupuncture treatment about two hours earlier!.  So I could hear this noise Ahelp!@ and I went down and saw the poor guy and I said Athat treatment you got today was a really good treatment and I=m not going to charge you extra for the extra time!@.  Surprisingly that was his last treatment with me!.  I remember another time because we did urinalysis and blood work from the office which was actually not allowed when I first came to Nipigon.  So we did the lab work in our office and this guy had come in for a life insurance physical he was a young muscular strapping guy and so Gladys said to him that for that physical we needed a sample.  She gave him a jar and said Acan you give us a sample?@  So he goes into the washroom and he was in there for quite a while and about fifteen minutes later he comes out and all that was in there was this white stuff.  So Gladys looks at the jar and says Aoh no no no that=s not right you have to do it again!@.  So the guy says Ano, not again!@.  So I said Ahey Gladys, make sure he knows it=s a urine test before you send him back in there!@.  That guy must have thought we were a bunch of perverts!.  There=s some interesting characters in Nipigon there was this old bachelor named Alec McMund and he used to live in a little shack down the road where the Matchett=s lived by the Sunnyside cabins and Alec had this one room little shack up there.  Everybody knew him and he was blind in one day and his vision was failing him in the other eye and he was very old and he had worked in the bush all of his life.  People said he should be in the old folks= home up in Thunder Bay because there wasn=t one in Nipigon in those days.  The town every fall would bring him a pile of chopped wood the guys from the maintenance department and he would cook a little bit for himself and so every once in a while we=d bring him a good meal.  About once every three months he=d take the taxi into the hospital to be checked over and people thought it was just awful that this old man was all alone but he wanted his independence.  Sure enough we got a call from one of his neighbors didn=t see any smoke coming out of his chimney so he had died and was frozen solid but he died happy and with his independence which I think is more humane than watching somebody like that being in an old folks= home.  We had another guy who was mentally challenged who must have been about 40 and he had an 80 year old father and he was sort of like Haus Cartwright from Bonanza he was a great big guy like kind of a gentle giant.  His father passed away and his mother had passed away before that but he could do some things to look after himself and I think it was Clarence Saunders who would take him out grocery shopping but he never bathed.  So whenever he came in to the office which I had that used to be a house at one time equipped with a three piece bathroom and so this guy when he came into the office to see me Gladys took him into the bathroom and put him in the bathtub and took all of his clothes and ran down to the Laundromat and washed his clothes for him and then brought them back for him!  Talk about you want to see a bath tub ring after all of the poplar smoke being in his house it was really something but Gladys was a really good sport about it to run down to the Laundromat.  This guy came into the hospital one time I think he had pneumonia and the nurses couldn=t get him out of the bathtub because he just wanted to sit in the bathtub!.  Eventually I think he had to go to a home here in Thunder Bay but where he lived I noticed the house stood for a long time on the highway but I see now it must have burnt down. 


There=s lots of stories talking about bodies freezing we one time got a call along with the OPP up to Black Sturgeon Road and there was a couple of guys who had been out hunting.  So I guess their car had run out of gas and or else they had sat in the car to keep warm with hopes that somebody would come along and they got carbon monoxide poisoning and had died.  So anyways, when the police came along the two of them sitting in the car were totally frozen solid and the OPP didn=t know what to do with them because of course they were frozen in the sitting position.  So the OPP thought well there=s no point in calling for an ambulance or anything so we just put the one guy in the one corner of the backseat of the cruiser and we put the other guy in the other corner.  They were driving along with these two frozen guys in the backseat and as they were coming down the Black Sturgeon Road there was a guy hitchhiking because his car had broken down I guess it was really cold, so they picked him up.  Well the only place for him to sit was between the two guys in the back seat and so the guy says Aboy, these guys sure don=t talk much do they!@.  And then because the heater was on in the cruiser, the one guy thawed out and slumped over this guys lap and then the other guy slumped on him.  Apparently the guy just said Astop! I=m getting out of here!@ and jumped out of the cruiser because he was totally freaked out of his mind. 

This story I was told to by an RCMP officer from the Nipigon detachment that way up north an old bushmen living by himself had died and was absolutely frozen solid.  So he called it in on his radio and asked Awhat should I do with him?@ and they said Awell, bury him get a big axe and make just a shallow grave@.  The officer had the brains to think well, I=m going to have to dig a hole six feet long here because the guy was tall.  So the RCMP officer put him on a saw horse and he figured, I=ll saw him in half and then I only have to make a three foot hole.  So that was what he did, he started sawing this guy in half and just then one of the old bushmen=s fellow trappers came around the corner and saw this OPP officer sawing his buddy in half! He came tearing into town talking about this crazy Mountie who had murdered his friend!. 


Another call I got up the Black Sturgeon was during hunting season and a guy had come out to the highway and flagged down a car and said Athere were four of us out hunting and my brother-in-law just shot two of the men in this cabin and poured gas from the Coleman stove on the place and burnt it down!@.  So the police had thought this story is pretty wild, anyways, they went out and had to go by boat up this river which I think was probably Wolf River so up went the coroner and the police and finally here=s this cabin which was burnt to the ground and you could see the shapes of what had been two bodies there.  Well, the brother-in-law turned up in town in Thunder Bay and the police went to him and he said Ayeah, I just wanted to get out of there because my brother-in-law shot those two guys and I didn=t want to get blamed for it!@.  So there were these two guys both accusing the other of having shot them and what the police should have done was to charge them both with together with the murder but instead they charged the guy with the bad criminal records.  The jury said Awell, we=ve got two guys who are both liars how do we know who it was@ so they didn=t convict them and there was no point charging the other guy because it would have been the same story so they both got off.  I remember in that inquest the defense lawyer tried to convince the jury that the lead in their brains was from the roof melting and dripping on to their heads.  Unfortunately the roof was made out of galvanized steel and not lead!. 


We had three kids when we came to Nipigon and then we adopted five more after that.  So we had a family of eight which was multi racial, we had one Colored child and one part Chinese, two Native children.  One of our daughters we adopted had congenital amputations of her fingers and toes so they were all special needs kids that we adopted.  Our son Jerry had been born with diabetes which was very unusual and he=s 43 years old now and has no complications at all.  When he was a teenager he lived on Coke and Chocolate Bars so it=s amazing because sometimes you think there=s no justice and he=s doing fine other than the fact that he had rotten teeth.  We lived up on McKirdy street and I believe it=s the Greek restaurant owners who bought it off of us the Stavropolous=s.  I built all of the rock walls at the place and it took me several years to do them all it was just a sort of a hobby for me.  The one summer I was there in my shorts covered in mortar and had the cement mixer running.  My wife had said that the hospital had phoned and that there was a couple of people in the emergency room with insect bites or something and so my wife said Amy husband=s busy working outside right now@.  So the hospital said Awell we=ll send them up for him to have a look at them@.  They came up to the house and stopped and asked me Ais this where the doctor lives@ and I said Ayeah@ so they walked up all the way up to the house and Maureen yells out Adear, there=s somebody here to see you!@.  So the look on their faces was priceless because here=s the doctor building a stone wall. 


Talking about stone walls, the town council one time got the bright idea to hire a dog catcher from Beardmore because they couldn=t get anybody from Nipigon to do the job because they=d be lynched!  I was building the rock wall and our dog which was a Golden Lab was sitting there watching me and all of a sudden I looked up and he was gone and the kids said Aoh, some men took the dog@.  What they did was they had a bitch in heat in the back seat of their car and they opened the door so of course the male dogs would just run to the car and they had a whole back seat full of dogs!  I was really ticked off so I jumped in the car and they kept them on the other side of the railway tracks down by the Plywood Mill was where the dog pound was.  Anyway, I was really moving in my car and I hit the railway tracks and tore the muffler right off my car.  Just as they were opening the door to get the dog out there was a scuffle in suit in which the dog catcher got his fingers slammed in the car door!  So I got my dog and put him in my car and took him back home and about half an hour later Constable Jones of the OPP arrives at the door and said Awe got an incident report here@ and I said AI thought the guy had stolen my dog how would I have know he was the dog catcher he never had any identification, I was just retrieving my stolen property!@.  The officer said Adid you have to slam the door on him though?@.  So by the time I got the muffler fixed I might as well have just paid the fine and been done with it. 




Nipigon=s probably the same way everybody knows everybody else and so people can be reasonable and understand things but it also means that people gossip a lot more but you gotta take the good with the bad.  We enjoyed the sixteen years we spent there and it was a wonderful place to bring your kids up partly because the parents all squealed on each others kids.  Our daughter Liz, because we lived up on a hill we=d get a pair of binoculars and could watch her.  She used to catch the bus down on Front Street and we=d see her by the bus and then the bus would leave and she was still standing there because she was playing hooky so we=d ask her when she=d come home how school was and we=d get this big long story.  So we=d say well that=s interesting you know because we saw you standing by the bus this morning and then the bus left and you were still standing there!@.  Another time somebody phoned and said Awe saw Liz across from Saunders Foodland and she was standing there having a cigarette@.  The poor kid never had a chance at all but in a sense that was good that parents watched each others kids and took responsibility for them.  Then there was the day there was a woman by the name of Mrs.  Martin who was a widow and she lived in this old house on around fifth street but Mrs.  Martin was a pack rat and she kept everything.  Her house was full of everything like newspapers and a lot of preserves because she made preserves but she never ate them her whole basement was full of them.  She had two children and she was a highly intelligent and well educated woman she was a school teacher and I think she brought her children up very well one of them went into the military and her daughter became a lieutenant colonel or something like that.  Anyway, Mrs. Martin had this old house and it caught fire so unfortunately the Nipigon fire department put the fire out when the house was about half burnt so now she had these ruins just sitting on the foundation.  Just at that time the community of Cameron Falls was becoming automated so it was being controlled from Pine Portage now it=s controlled by I think Thunder Bay but the whole community out there was just amazing of houses and they were all being sold for I think like a thousand dollars and you could get a nice three bedroom bungalow.  All you had to do was to pay to have it moved into town.  So Mrs.  Martin came to me and she said AI=ve managed to save up a thousand dollars to buy it and I=ve made arrangements with the movers and they=ll move it for me but the problem is what am I going to do with the old house?@.  There was still four walls standing even though the roof was gone and this was back in around 1965 so I had the bright idea that what we=d do was we=d get the school kids from the George O=neill school.  So we put up a poster and said that any kids that were interested in destroying a house to come to Mrs.  Martin=s on Saturday morning and to bring sledgehammers.  I had a big maxi van and so the kids we put them upstairs and they=d pound away and smash the house and then with the maxi van I tied a rope around and blew a whistle and then the kids were all to clean out of the house when the whistle blew.  Then with the rope I would go down the hill and we=d pull a section of the house down that way.  Ava Larson had a son who had died of a brain tumor and he had an old truck and so he out of the goodness of his heart said that he would haul stuff to the dump for us.  So on Saturday we knocked Mrs.  Martin=s house down and hauled it all away to the dump and the kids had a wonderful time!  You think about it now though with all the liabilities and lawsuits and danger and everybody worried but nobody got hurt.  I remember I had a chainsaw and I would cut a section and then the kids would knock it out with the sledgehammer and then we=d pull it out where the truck was. Then they brought the new house in and Mrs.  Martin came back to see me because they put the house on the foundation the wrong way.  Well it would only fit one way but the problem was the foundation was long and narrow and the house was long and narrow too but the front of the house was in the middle of the long part so these guys put the house on the foundation and when she went out her front door she was looking at the wall of the next door neighbors house!  She was quite ticked off that they put the house on the foundation the wrong way.  I guess that house is still there I know there are several houses that came from Cameron Falls but that was the most famous. 


There were nurses in Cameron Falls who would just travel back and forth to the hospital I think they may have had a nurses station there but the medical treatment was done in Nipigon.  Sometimes in those days we would make house calls too.  I remember the one time the Legion had a dance and unfortunately I think it was the salad that got salmonella and there was about 600 people at this dance and all of them were just sick as dogs.  So we were all running around giving people shots of gravol to all these people on Sunday morning who were vomiting and it wasn=t because they were hung over they were really sick.  I remember I got a query from OHIP because I had made something like 60 house calls within a 24 hour period and they wanted an explanation of this abnormality in my billing schedule.  George Sittlinger was busy over in Red Rock doing the same thing talk about being popular!.  It was a good place to bring kids up. 

Monday, 28 March 2022

Avaline Larsen Interview 2006

 

 Re: Ski Factory  Ski Hill and Hostel  and assorted topics re Nipigon

 

 

Mrs. Avaline Larsen

 

 

March 23rd, 2006 

May 5th, 2006 

June 20th, 2006

 

I came in 1944 to teach Grade Two.  It turned out to be Grade 2 and 3 and we had big class rooms at that time.  You usually had forty.  When they were building Pine Portage I had fifty-four students all crammed in and there was nothing you could do.  And they used – where the Mrs. Harbinson’s house is, well that was the Red Cross Centre during the war and my husband’s father gave that property to the Red Cross because his house burned down.  When I came here his house was there and it burned in 1946.  Now there is a thing up there saying it was the Ski Factory.  That was husband’s father.  I had a class of about forty some and it was a mixture of senior primer and Grade two, which was the advanced Grade One kid that didn’t make it the first year in Grade One and had to have a little bit more background.  And after that I only had Grade Two.  One year I had Grade One but usually I had Grade Two.  I taught for seven years that’s all.  I taught once in that Red Cross Center after my father-in-law’s house burned down and he was next to the lumber lot yard so they couldn’t get any insurance.  Well it was so high it was prohibited. That was just the beginning of the war and stuff.  The insurance was very high because they piled all the lumber in the empty lot next to his.  It’s where Home Hardware is today and it was Beaver Lumber and they bought that lot for those purposes.  And the wino guys used to go and drink and smoke there and my mother-in-law always said she was afraid it was going to burn and sure enough the lumber yard caught on fire one summer day and burned their house down.  And they didn’t have any insurance.  So he gave the land to the Red Cross because he was very patriotic and they built the Red Cross building on there and I taught in there.  When the school got so full when they started to expand to Pine Portage and make the dam up there we just couldn’t house them at all in George O’Neill school it was small then.  I came before they put the addition on to it.  It was only four rooms upstairs.  So my father-in-law built a house up here on McKirdy Avenue two doors down from Bernice Laurila.  He had a sawmill business as well as the ski factory which was a side line that he had.  Actually the rough lumber in this house is all from his sawmill.  We built this house in 1951.  This was already McKirdy Avenue was just starting to open up a bit and Anne Moore’s house was there five or ten years before.  Domtar had built a few houses along here; I think it was called Domtar or whatever it was called then.  We bought this house and then we added on to it – my husband put this addition on.  We got married in 1947. 

        Well when you get out of Teacher’s College you apply and you couldn’t get into the city very easily.  Just like Lillian she went to Hurkett first.  I had put out all kinds of applications for positions and got a lot places like Red Lake and I thought Nipigon its closer.  I was lucky I got the job here.  Then I married and worked for seven years, then I supply taught for a while.  I have a genetic sight impairment that wasn’t too.  Well it didn’t hamper me too much until I was a forty or forty-five it was progressive and it’s called retinitis pigmentosis.  Those guys on the motorcycles ride for that but mine is the atypical type in so far as that the central vision is damaged.  It’s the retina of the eye that gets holes in it and its not something lacking in the genes.  It deteriorates the retina.  And so usually though people with retinitis pigmentosis have tunnel vision, their peripheral is all wrecked first well mine is the opposite and I went to the Mayo Clinic they told me that.  Its not too common type I have.  We haven’t traced in the family except that it could be a mutation – because my mother was RH negative with a strange factor and my dad was RH negative and it just could be that sometimes you get mutations.  The gene is only passed through the woman – they only discovered that gene.  For certain diseases they can only be passed through the female because my sister has it too and when her son was getting married about ten years ago we were getting the genealogy all checked out at the Sick Children’s Hospital because he didn’t want to have children that this would be passed on to.  They told him that only through the female – the mitochondria gene – that’s the only one that be passed by a woman.  It started to get bad when I was around fifty.  I used to have to use a magnifying glass then I couldn’t even use that.  Luckily I have four boys because I wasn’t aware of that at the time – I have only one possibility that it could passed on and my daughter is fine and I have one granddaughter and she says she has no plans to get married or have children.  They are now starting to do surgery in the last few years in Singapore where they put paper thin tissue in behind and something like a microchip and that has made new retina for people.  And then at the Mayo Clinic they’re doing something with stem cells but then Bush came in and wouldn’t let them do the research anymore because they were doing something with injecting stem cells in the eye.  But I think I’m kind of old – I’m going to be 82 April 3.  I think I’ll just live with it.  Well if it something I knew that I could go and have done but to go and experiment – I don’t know and its sixty thousand bucks an eye but that will probably come down and it would be worth it anyhow if it would give you sight out of one eye.  And in another ten years there will be something to help.

 When I came to Nipigon it was a very flourishing town.  It was lively and I liked it here a lot. We would have dances and lots of fun going and bowling.  And hiking – nature is so nice here.  So then I lived with Lillian Wolter for a while.  Teachers usually lived together and we had an apartment above the shoemaker’s shop.  The cobbler was a real cobbler from Finland, Mr. Tuomaala and he made the boots for the bush guys.  Really good boots and he made them from scratch.  He was a real shoemaker.  We enjoyed living with them.  There were Finnish people in Thunder Bay but not as many as here and there weren’t very many Swedes here.  Actually when Ron’s mom came, Ron was two years old and his dad had been here.  Ron was born in 1923 and his dad was there for his birth in April and then he came over here and he worked. The first place he worked was building the Chalet Bungalow Lodge for the CPR.  He was a carpenter and then he got into woods business after.  He came with relatives in the States.  A lot of them had moved to Lundsen and around North Dakota.  So he came there first and then he came to a relative in Thunder Bay called Johnson and he built where the Funeral Home right now.  That was his Uncle that built that.  It was funny – kind of ironic his sister died a few months after Ron died.  April 14th last year and his sister – she lived in Thunder Bay and she wasn’t looking too well for a while but anyhow she died in September.  It was awfully short to me – and she’s younger than I am. 

So then Ron’s sister – she had made her own funeral arrangements and then the Funeral Director and she were talking and it was her uncle that had built the Habourview Funeral Home.  Eric Johnson was his name and that’s where he had his apartment house and then it became the Institute for the Blind after that and they added on to it and then it’s become Harborview so it was kind of ironic that she was in there talking and she didn’t know the history.  The Funeral Director will never forget her because she had gone over so many times to make sure everything was right for her funeral – every detail – she was a perfectionist. 

We called the school – Nipigon Consolidated.  There was a good mix of kids because we had Catholics and Protestants together and that was very good I thought and even the kids thought it was because there was no division.  They all experienced school together and we had a few from the reserve, quite a few.  There was a school on the reserve but some kids came to our school.  Maybe they lived down at the landing closer to town.  And there were lots of kids with a mixed population here like there were some Ukrainians.  After the war we got more kids and they bused the kids from out in the country like Cameron Falls road.  The children would have their lunches too.  I enjoyed it and we always had mostly single women teaching.  That was the day when – just getting over during the war, they wouldn’t let married women teach.  They didn’t want them and married women teachers were pretty well the last resort.  The women were supposed to be home with their kids and raise them up so they wouldn’t be bratty in school.  We had to teach the Lord’s Prayer that was mandatory.  We had to have opening exercises and we had to include the Lord’s Prayer and a hymn.  Mandatory was the Lord’s Prayer and God Save the King.  And the strap, you gave it on your own.  If you thought it was appropriate then a teacher would take that action.  I think I gave the strap once it wasn’t my favorite type of punishment.  I sometimes took it out and showed it to the students – especially those wild boys.  I think I was such a little thing that – there I am in that picture with the gun…see how small I was.  So I was pretty small – I weighed a hundred and eight pounds and I was eighteen years old. 

The first time I saw my husband to be I taught his brother Kenny and he was in Grade 3 I guess that’s when I had the Grade 2 and 3 classes.  I was very patriotic too so I put red, white and blue streamers all around the black bulletin board.  I think I had an ulterior motive though.  So all the gals would come in to see who was good looking and take a look at all the brothers and male relatives that would come in to look at these streamers.  I think I was the only one that did that.  Anyhow Ron Ruth was a friend of his so I thought the other guy was better looking actually but my husband was real fresh and I met him because I ordered some skis from the ski factory.  And he had a look at me and he offered to deliver them for his dad and his dad thought it was kind of unusual.  He had never offered to that before.  So he delivered my skis to the shoemaker shop and I remember him bringing them up and being very gentle with them.  So that was the first time I saw him!  And then we went skating at the outdoor rink which was over on First Street right where the old curling rink was – pardon me it was next to Beaver Lumber.  He had his eye on me so he skated with me, took me out for coffee after and that was the beginning. 

We used to go to lots of dances.  They had dances at the drop of a hat with good bands.  The guys always had their bottles – there was no official drinking but not too many of them had something to sip on.  We didn’t know about it but we got suspicious after a few dances.  The guys around Nipigon always went to the bars.  The bars were thriving.  The men always went there after work no matter where they worked they congregated – they were young – in their 20’s and that.  That was the place to go!  There was the men’s bar and women’s bar – they were separated.  I never went to the bar in Nipigon at that time – I wasn’t interested and teachers didn’t do that.  And if you smoked you kind of hid it too.  I never smoked a lot but I had to look like a movie star.  We were very much influenced by the movies.  We used to call the theatre the Blue Lagoon.  It was down where Mike’s Mart is – that was thriving.  That’s where we went for our movies and it was a pretty shaky outfit.  You know bad chairs to sit in and you know these types of things.  We called it the Blue Lagoon because it was painted blue inside – I don’t think it was blue on the outside.  That’s where we had all the dances at the theatre.  The bands were pretty good – the music was modern peppy – swing stuff.  And somebody would always sing.  The musicians weren’t too bad actually. 

We got married in Thunder Bay because my family was in Thunder Bay.  I went and visited them as often as I could when I was teaching.  We would go home on the train.  The train was wonderful and so often we would go on the train.  Lillian had a car often because she was married to a fellow from Hurkett and if not we would take the bus or a train.  The train would stop and pick up people at McKenzie and stuff like that.  I lived right off Oliver Road when I was young – it was called Wright Avenue next to the Oliver Road Centre.  That was a big field when I was there with birch trees.

My cousin worked up in Geraldton during the thriving period.  I used to get letters from her.  Cooks from Thunder Bay had a restaurant – they had a grill there.  They had one Thunder Bay.  She used to work as a cook in Thunder Bay and so she went to Geraldton and she stayed there until after the war when things started to change.  Then she went to Toronto and she just died last year.  She was much older than I was.  She was eighty-eight or something like that.  Look at Anne Moore isn’t she doing great?  She’s an inspiration.  She walks and she has good muscles.  

I did go back to work after I got married full time for a few years – about three years.  I got married in 1947 and we built this house in 1951 and that was the year I retired.  And even when I was here a teacher had a nervous breakdown and I went then for six months just to help.  Beryl Tuomaala didn’t come from England – she was supposed to come for September then I went in.  I was always pregnant when I went in for those situations.  The School Board lady was a doctor’s wife along the street.  Dr. Jefferies wife – she would come over and help.  And then I had Ron’s mother along the street and she would always help me out so that was OK. 

Ron worked for his dad at the sawmill – he didn’t do much at the ski factory, he did the sawmill mostly. 

We sponsored Isadore Wadow’s art show and he was selling his painting for $20.  We looked at them and all admired them and you know how famous they are now.  None of us like Lillian Wolter and a bunch of us were all strictly along with families buying houses and stuff. We didn’t buy any of those paintings.  Then when I heard about Isadore and he was painting, I thought I would go and ask him if he would paint a picture for me, so I went down and I think Bernice Laurila took me.  He had moved here from wherever he came from – he would be all around.  He used to tell us where he was but I can’t really remember the places where he lived but they trapping and he slept out in tent in the bush at forty below.  So I went there and unfortunately I didn’t realize his father had just died and it was kind of a funeral thing and they were all out in the yard and I was kind of embarrassed when I found out that his father had just passed away.  But he was very friendly – and he came and talked to me and said he would come and see me after and I told him where I lived.  He came, he was always coming downtown and he came up here.  Then I got him to paint these ones on the plywood.  And so he did those and I have quite a few of his actually.  He used to come here because he liked to get a ride home from Ron.  Ron would be watching TV and there would be a knock on the door and there would be Isadore all loaded and then he would come to bring pictures too when he needed money for something.  Some of them were excellent and some of them weren’t so good.  He would be drinking and that was his ambition to get a painting sold for more drinking money.  So we got to know him very well because my husband used to drive him home.  Then he would come over sometimes when he wasn’t out drinking and on that one over there, the snake – he didn’t put the egg on it and he always used come here and say “I’m happy you hang my pictures”.  Then he said “you know I forgot the egg on that one” – I didn’t have it here then.  He said “You know that snake I didn’t have time, I ran out of paint – didn’t do the egg”.  And I said “oh well then I have to have the egg Isadore”.  So I set him all up in the basement and painted the egg on. 

 

And I used to write for the newspaper.  Comical Urinal!  That’s in bad taste (laughs)!  Sometimes I forget to call it the Chronicle Journal because I’ve referred to it as the other name for so long.  So I wrote for a long time for the Chronicle Journal – I did articles on Isadore Wadow and the history of the Prince of Whales when he had gone to the Chalet Bungalow Lodge and he fished when he was here in 1919.  And it was in the museum for a long time but I think it all burned up – I’ve got all my articles.  I have a lot of history in interviews.  I’ve done lots people that are gone now including the curator of the museum – the initiator Buzz Lein.  I have his interview!  I have lots of tapes.  I do think these should be in the museum – maybe there could be a little audio corner of some kind.  I have them saved and I hope they’re still good.  I saved them because it was all of interest to the history of Nipigon.  I also have the history of the Loftquist family of Loftquist Lake.  When I sent articles into the paper sometimes they published but I do have the originals.  I had a wonderful picture from Mr. Everett – he gave to me.  I was a good friend’s of Mr. Everett too because I taught Wallace his son and so he gave me a copy of the Prince of Whales.  It’s a wonderful picture, the Prince is in a trench coat standing in the canoe and I was to dumb not to know – in those days we weren’t printing any pictures at home there was no computers.  I trusted them, I sent up the picture and it wasn’t a negative.  And so when I asked Gerry Poling, my stuff came back with my pictures and negative and everything once a month – there was no picture of the Prince of Whales.  So I phoned Gerry and I said “where is my picture of the Prince of Whales?”  “Oh must be around here somewhere, I’ll look it up”.  Never found it – somebody snitched it.  That was madding!  You learn the hard way.  Helen my sister-in-law would know a lot – she had a lot of pictures and she was going to show them to people and label who are in the pictures.  Ron well he had Alzheimer’s, just for about a year.  I don’t think he really had Alzheimer’s anyhow – I think he had mad cow disease!  Ron liked steak and we were in England at that time – I don’t know but it wasn’t typical Alzheimer’s.  Even the doctor said he thought it was a number of strokes or something because he always knew, he hallucinated though.  He had something wrong with the brain neurons that weren’t going right.  Even my niece that is a nurse said it was so a typical of Alzheimer’s.  They misdiagnosing Alzheimer in the states like crazy and even in Canada. 

        I’m a vegetarian.  I eat free ranging turkey that my son-in-law gets.  I eat white fish once in a while.  My son was here for dinner so he ate most of it.  That’s why I take quite an array of vitamins.  I’m also part of the book club.  I have a friend who comes and picks me up. 

        The Chalet Bungalow Lodge, well my father-in-law worked on that.  I’ll tell you that was a wonderful classy CPR Lodge.  They had white linens and silver and the waiters dressed up, it was just like an extension of their first class on the train and their first class hotels – Prince Arthur and all those.  The Kellough brothers came at one time and stayed there.  It had a beautiful fireplace.  All the ritzy rich people came to go fishing up the Nipigon River and they had their guides.  But you got off at the station – they didn’t get off at our regular Nipigon CPR station.  They had a central station across the river and it was well built little station and they got off there.  Now do you know where that station is today?  It’s right on Hudson Street – and it’s a little wee house – Toivo Laurila owned before and it’s gone through a few hands since then.  Its three rooms – it’s a tiny little house.  Going down Hudson Street on the left hand side you know who lives in there are Dabbas I don’t know if you know them.  Its right at the – there’s a big house facing Fifth Street, the very next one.  That was the old station.  Its well built I’m sure because they wouldn’t have moved it across the tracks.  Its still there and it has no basement but it has a little living room when you go in because it was a just a waiting room, a little kitchen behind and on the left hand side was a little bedroom.  Toivo Laurila when he and his wife separated bought that house and he lived in there.  He left her the big house up here on the hill. 

        You should ask Anne Moore of the “ladies of the night” that were here.  She’s told me about it!  I don’t think she’ll probably tell you.  She showed me where the house was down where Riverside goes down that house – right behind the Main Street, where there’s some houses there.  One of those houses!  We had prostitutes here for sure because the bush men came in.  And of course they lived in Thunder Bay too.  And when I was growing up I used to hear my mom whispering about “old Mags”, she lived right where Intercity, just where you cross that bridge on Fort William Road.  We used to look at it when we would be on the street car we’d have to change in Fort William when they were two cities.  We would have to get off and wait for another train and that was “old Mags” house and that’s where the prostitutes live.  It was a great brick house right across the bridge and everybody knew where that was.  It was a thriving business.  And she was quite the woman – I guess they got stories about her in the old museum there in Thunder Bay. 

When I was doing research on some of the stuff here, Cynthia and I went over to the Thunder Bay museum and we talked to the curator (Tory) there and he was so disgusted with Nipigon.  He was so mad because they buried the powder house and that was during Brennan’s time – they put that turbine right on top of it from Cameron Falls.  Avery said it’s a good thing they buried it because probably it would have been knocked down.  When I first came here we used to go and sit in there – the old Powder House.  Everybody went there, and Molly Kingston said they all went and played in it too.  They did the archeological dig for two years and then there was more work to be done and Tory was very disgusted with Nipigon because he had approached Jerry Brennan once and the answer was no.  There are so many missed opportunities.  We could have integrated with “old Fort William” and stuff like that because we were a viable part of the fur trade here.  They should have done something to the Powder House burying it was a big mistake.  We can still do something…I think we should integrate with the First Nation.  If we could get together and even use the old theatre or something and do something.  Everything is crumbling away – its so discouraging. 

After my father-in-law finished at the Chalet Lodge, he went to work at Cameron Falls building houses and stuff.  And he brought Ron and his mom here the next year.  He came in 1925.  Ron was born in Sweden.  They came on the CNR.  They came across on a boat to Halifax and how good the nurses were that meant the immigrants.  They were volunteers I guess, Salvation Army and different ones to help.  They took the baby away and cleaned him all up and then she got on a train and in Sweden where she lived they had bathrooms and electricity and everything and she thought the cities didn’t look too bad but then when she started heading into the north.  It was all trees and no lights, she thought “oh my god, where am I”?  And so when they took her off the train – she was supposed to go to the CN station down there and Poppa was there with the Ole Taxi they had.  It was called Maki…I forget his name, anyhow he had the taxi down waiting for her but the conductor felt sorry for her because she had this baby and she was so lost looking, so he said “well here is Nipigon”.  She couldn’t speak any English.  “I’ll put you off right here the town is right here” rather than taking her down to the station which was out of the town.  So she was put off there on the banks down there by that bridge that goes across to the Marina and she said she saw little First Nation kids looking from the banks at her and she was all terrified.  There was nobody to meet her and she was put off in the bush – it was all bushes around there then.  And then her husband inquired at the train where she was and the conductor told him that he had put off there because he thought it was handier for her.  So he got this Rinta Maki’s Taxi came speeding up and she saw this big cloud of dust coming, she was so happy to see that taxi which was the only one in Nipigon in 1925. 

They lived in a little rented house that was the RCMP house, behind where the Legion is now.  It was a little two room house I guess that the RCMP lived in.  The RCMP fellow was responsible for Nipigon then.  They moved the RCMP to another building, I think up across from where Dr. Harvey’s office was at the end of the street on Fourth Street up from the Home Hardware.  So then they rented that for a couple of years then Poppa (Eric) built the house that got burned down.  She said there was no running water, no telephones like they had in Sweden, no electricity – so it was pretty hard to adjust to.  Then she had Mrs. Ahl who was a neighbor and they were Swedes too.  She started to learn English from Mrs. Ahl and Poppa would come home and she would say “I know how to speak English now”.  He would ask her what she could say.  She would say “stoven”; she added an “n” on everything!  The Swansons were Swedes and they had a mink farm and they were very good friends.  Everybody got along!  And Petersons were another family, and Torey Petersen married a Finnish lady.  The Finns and Swedes always had a bit rivalry anyhow and the Norwegians thought they were the top and the Swedes thought they were better than the Finns etc. 

So we went to Sweden three times and we went to Finland too.  It was wonderful because Ron had a lot of relatives there and we still keep in touch.  We also took the children when they were young.  We went to England one summer and stayed for six weeks in London.  I have relatives in Jamaica so we went there often.  My cousin was Prime Minister.  He’s the opposition now I think.  His mother is my mom’s first cousin.  My mother came from Jamaica actually.  We have ties there so off we went.  It’s not a good country if you are a socialist they were very conservative and lots of money there.  I couldn’t live there without making changes.  Its such a beautiful country and its so exploited. 

Guess we started the hostel here.  We had a woman at the hospital and she took the place of Judy Tines – she worked at the hospital.  Anyway her sister was lady from Terrace Bay – Dr. Aidy was there during that time.  So one of his daughters Pamela was on our hospital committee and we had Conference in Sault St. Marie and so we picked her up in Terrace Bay.  When Ron was sick this lady took Judy’s place over at the hospital and she was looking after Ron and then she’s head of the placement – the extended care unit of the hospital.  And she was talking to me and that she grew up around here and she now lives in Rossport and drives everyday to work.  But she told me she grew up in Terrace Bay and I said “oh I only knew one person in Terrace and that was Pamela Aidy.  She replied “that’s my sister”.  Apparently Pamela lives in Schreiber now and is married and has children.  I remember when we brought Pamela home; she said “you know what I really enjoyed traveled with you people so much because you don’t fight”.  She meant my husband Ron and I, we never fought!  How Pamela got involved with the Hostel because her mother used to go down from Terrace Bay to the highway and look for people to give sandwiches and stuff.  Like young hippies traveling and she said that she took many of them home to the basement to sleep.  So she was doing the same thing that we were and that’s how Pamela got involved.  I really want to write about it, when I’m back on my computer.  That house is weird – it doesn’t leak but the basement is falling from under it and I mean it’s really sad.  But that roof never leaked – it’s made by Finn people.  They made that metal roof and I think that’s the first go round for metal roofs.  So Mr. Everett said he would rent it to us and we had all the paper work done for the little group.  And then he called me at home and said “Mrs. Larsen I’d be proud to rent it to you because I’m a good liberal.”  But he said “I have hostility from my people living here, they don’t want the hostel across from us”.  He had a little encampment (rental house place at Everettville) at that place right across from the house we wanted.  Mr. Everett went on “because they’re afraid of the hippies and all this stuff”.  I said “well Mr. Everett we have everything ready”.  So I asked him “will you sell it?”  He said “ya I’ll sell it”.  He said I don’t that house anyhow because it’s a lot of work and he just liked his Everettville.  So I said “I think I’ll buy it”.  I can’t remember what he charged for it but it wasn’t a lot and we bought it.  Mr. Everett was renting it up to that point.  We were able to function in that house.  We had an outhouse and then the government paid for a new out house there.  And we had a well.  It also had kitchen and they had to take turns.  Well it was just like sandwiches they made and coffee, and there were benches and picnic tables to eat on.  I hope I can find some pictures of the hostel. 

        We had that “tent city” was down below and we had to have someone there twenty-fours a day.  Well at night for security – but no we never had any incidents of anything.  Even when the motorcycle gangs came one time, they came there and we were kind of afraid but I mean they weren’t that bad.  They didn’t do anything they just had a cup of coffee and moved on. 

        The Hostel moved to Cameron Falls for one year because of the Deschamps lived there with two little children.  The hostel closed around the end of September and they had wanted to rent for the winter and I said well you will have to look again in the spring.  Housing was hard to get believe it or not!  And too expensive housing – and he worked she didn’t.  So when the spring came they couldn’t move because they couldn’t find another place and they had two kids so then we had to look for another place.  And it wasn’t so handy on the Cameron Falls Road.  We had to put a big sign and a lot of them went there.  It was the Lanko’s house there, and the father was in the Extended Care Ward.  We had a big field there for all those who came but it was off the beaten track.  People had to walk down the Cameron Falls Road and there weren’t any cars to give them rides so it wasn’t very convenient.  Then the next year it went back to the original house and then for two years it still operated.  Then there wasn’t any more funding and the hippie generation.  They all cut their hair and changed their professions (laughs).  That’s how my daughter met her husband – he was coming from California where his sister had been and he went off and left his father an Anglican Minister in downtown Montreal.  He has St. John’s the Evangelist, one of the biggest and oldest churches there and the parents were very straight and very fussy about their own son.  They had three girls and one son and Chris rebelled and ran away.  His sister was in clothing or something in San Francisco and he hitch hiked down there and let his hair grow and away he went.  He was on his way back to Montreal when he stopped here.  Cynthia was working at the hostel and he must have fallen for Cyn and her for him.  One of the helpers – Susan Wheeler had to vacation with her parents and we needed extra help at the hostel and so Chris offered his services.  And he stayed and worked for a couple of weeks here and then he moved to Nipigon because Cynthia was here.  Eventually they got married but it didn’t last too long.  He’s back in Montreal now and his dad is retired.  They’re a wonderful family but just so intolerant of anything – they wanted their son in the church.  There were lots of these rebellious kids around.  They had an outlet that way (hostel). 

 

        When I came to teach here in 1944 – there was no Terrace Bay and Marathon was just starting up.  I went to a Teacher’s Union Meeting and we went on the train and there was no road to it.  There was a big school in the community just coming up in 1945.  There wasn’t a Women’s Teachers Federation and we started talks for that.  Bernice Laurila was on that committee and we went anyhow for the meeting.  It was just mud and new buildings so they knew too that they were a hole in the woods.  Same with Manitouwadge!  People went in there I don’t think with long term expectations.  Of course they thought the mines were never going to close and I guess they didn’t think much of the wood ever going either because there wasn’t clear cutting that time.  It was select cutting.  Once the resource is gone – it is gone and it’s the same thing with Cameron Falls. 

 

My husband’s group they’re nearly all gone.  Johnny Ahl is three years younger than my husband and even Ron there were older ones.  He and my husband grew up together.  Well there was a small Swedish community here and Mrs. Ahl was my mother-in-law’s good friend and neighbor down there.  Ron lived where the old Ski Factory was and Ahls lived right down where the church is (Pentecostal Church).  They skied – on the other side of the river, right across that hill; well it used to be all and looked like it got a haircut over there and its all grown up now.  The entire bush around this thing was all cut and people would ask why is that all cut?  It was a good ski hill and we used to ski across the river.  Now because of Cameron Falls has opened it up like it has now.  It froze over then it doesn’t freeze now – it’s changed its course.  The river wasn’t that wide and we could cross over on our skis.  We used to go after four, down there ski across and we had to climb up the ski hill.  There were three levels and the top was really a challenge.  The only time we could come down from the top was in February when it was a melting day you know when you’re skis stuck.  Usually most people climbed to the second level because the top one was quick and then you leveled off up there.  Then the other one was a little higher and the bottom was a nice gentle slope.  And you always to be sure you cut that you could turn at the bottom because you would ski into the trees and the river was beyond you.  The river was covered over with ice of course but anyhow there was a bunch of trees there and we had to learn how to stop on a dime.  It was fun!  There was a little ski shack there with a stove in it.  We had a ski club. 

        Nipigon was a very lively town.  My goodness!  There was always a dance every week and social activities.  The dances in the school were good, and the plays.  There was a theatrical group but we called it the Drama Club.  We had Margaret Banning and she had been on the stage in Scotland or something.  She was a war bride and she knew a lot about the theatre and she was good.  Margaret was a moving force in the Drama Club and she just got people who liked acting and we had a group that put on plays and she directed.  And we brought in a director from Thunder Bay.  It was fun and everybody would come out for the plays at the George O’Neill School although it wasn’t a really good stage.  And before that before I ever came they were doing it in the old Finn Hall too. 

        Custi Lespi would have a lot of history.  He was pretty famous.  He was gone when I moved here but I heard all about him before I ever saw him.  I never watched hockey.  Well of course we couldn’t watch it on television then. 

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Dan Gapen

 

Daniel Dean Gapen, Sr., 89 years of age, passed away peacefully  at the St. Cloud Hospital on Saturday,  November 20th, 2021.

He was born April 9, 1932 in Duluth, Minnesota. For the first years of his life Dan was raised in Minnesota’s Arrowhead country at the Hungry Jack Lodge on the Gunflint Trail. The family then moved to Nipigon, Ontario, where they began operating the Chalet Bungalow Lodge, a tourist fishing and hunting Camp on the Nipigon River, which at that time was the road’s end.

Dan began tying flies under his Father’s instruction at the age of 6, including the Muddler® Fly which his Father, Don, created on the shores of the Nipigon River.

Don also taught Dan the art of guiding and river running. Dan was a fishing guide from the age of 14; the principle fish being the world-famous Brook Trout, Northern Pike, Walleye and Lake Trout. He began guiding moose hunters at age 15.

Dan’s Military title in the Army was Specialist Third Class and was stationed at Fort Benning, Georgia. His military service included guiding Military Officials fishing, frog gigging and hunting.

He worked diligently with Congress and Senate Members in the 1970s to instrument legislation to preserve running waters, first in Minnesota for the Mississippi River, then nationally to enact the Wild and Scenic River Bill.

In the late 1960s Dan formed the Gapen Tackle Company and created items such as the Ugly Bug® Jig and the Bait Walker® Sinker. He continually strove to bring to his fishing public lures and products that would genuinely work in catching fish.

He loved to work Sports Shows and visit with his fishing friends and customers, and to give fishing seminars. Dan was the author of many books, both on ‘How-To’ catch fish, and legend/stories. He was contributing writer for many national outdoor magazines and syndicated columns for decades.

Dan co-hosted and was guest on numerous TV shows through the years, and filmed and produced The Sportsman Channel’s  “Fishing the World With the Ol’ Man and ‘Bobber’ Anne”, alongside Anne Orth, the 30-year employee of the Gapen Company and best friend to Dan. He loved to film underwater video, trying to capture on film fish striking Gapen lures!

Dan was a Father, Grandfather, Cousin, Son, Partner, Brother, Uncle and Friend. To most he was a true Legend, one of the top Anglers and Storytellers of our time, much loved by those who knew him.

He is survived by his children, Deborah Gapen, Sandra Gapen-Dahl, and Mitchell Gapen. He is the beloved Grandfather of 19 and Great-Grandfather of 38.

He was preceded in death by his parents, Betsey and Don Gapen, and his sister Vaughn Thompson. Deceased children are Danette Gapen, Daniel Gapen, Jr., and Walter Scott Gapen.

Condolences may be expressed by email to the Gapen family at gapen@gapen.com.

Family and friends are invited to attend a Celebration of Life at the Monticello Community Center at 505 Walnut Street, Monticello, MN 55362 on December 12th, 2021 from 1pm to 4pm .  A short memorial and military honors service will be given during this time.

 

Dan had many loves, especially friends and family.

In lieu of flowers, memorials may be sent to the Minnesota Fishing Museum, or the Tunnel to Towers Foundation (the severely disabled Military members group).  You may  contact them directly or send gifts to the Gapen Family at P.O. Box 10, Big Lake, MN   55309